WHO Poll
Q: 2023/24 Hopes & aspirations for this season
a. As Champions of Europe there's no reason we shouldn't be pushing for a top 7 spot & a run in the Cups
24%
  
b. Last season was a trophy winning one and there's only one way to go after that, I expect a dull mid table bore fest of a season
17%
  
c. Buy some f***ing players or we're in a battle to stay up & that's as good as it gets
18%
  
d. Moyes out
38%
  
e. New season you say, woohoo time to get the new kit and wear it it to the pub for all the big games, the wags down there call me Mr West Ham
3%
  



penners28 5:15 Tue Nov 10
Re: The children suffering
When I worked in banking you should see what SOME people on benefits spend their money on. One girl in particular got a "crisis" loan, and 2 days later had £400 worth of clothes shopping on her account...

Block 5:15 Tue Nov 10
Re: The children suffering

Darlo Debs 5:03 Tue Nov 10
Re: The children suffering

That is the school vouchers debs, I meant instead of receiving their welfare benefits as cash, some of it should be as vouchers for food.

Sadly, some of these cunts will still sell the food vouchers for their own gain.

Darlo Debs 5:14 Tue Nov 10
Re: The children suffering
One thing that should deffo be done as vouchers is for fruit & veg. This doesnt have to be fresh either as it can include frozen & tinned (in natural juice) and fruit juice. Anything to.help.parents get the five-a-day down theit kids. I am.sure i remember a time not that long ago when people were getting these.

Sven Roeder 5:10 Tue Nov 10
Re: The children suffering
If the parents own a Monet why the hell are they getting benefits!

Side of Ham 5:09 Tue Nov 10
Re: The children suffering
Block 4:58 Tue Nov 10

My monet says you are son......

Mike Oxsaw 5:08 Tue Nov 10
Re: The children suffering
When I was growing up as a lad, delivering milk, quite a lot of families (had no idea if they were single or dual parent or not) had vouchers issued by the government with which they could by certain dairy products for their kids. The milkman would take them as part or full payment for the weekly milk bill.

That seemed to work quite well and, apparently it was strictly policed back at the dairy such that if a coupon was used against a non-qualifying product, the milkman in question got a severe reprimand, if not suspended for a week or so, and the person who used the ticket was reported to the authorities.

In the 7/8 years I was a milkboy, I can only ever recall one person trying to convert a coupon to cash (I can probably still remember the address, the street, certainly as it was such an unusual occurrence).

It should be possible these days to have such a system based on an app or Oystercard principle. Even the most simple scanning tills these days itemise what a shopper buys so it's easy to correlate qualifying products against such credit.

penners28 5:06 Tue Nov 10
Re: The children suffering
Agree with MPI. Not everyone is on the scrounge, but there are far more people doing it than people make out. If it's pointed out though comments like "stop reading the daily mail" are widely used.

The tories are cunts, on the whole, but all this about them voting to make kids go hungry is horseshit. They provide welfare payments to families so they can buy food.

Darlo Debs 5:03 Tue Nov 10
Re: The children suffering
Block the money at the last lockdown was given.in vouchers which could only be spent on food

Darlo Debs 5:01 Tue Nov 10
Re: The children suffering
I think we see examples of that a lot in various parts of the media and its really piwerful.as that becomes our overriding image and symbolism.of poverty, yet i am pretty sure that is far ftom.the whole picture.

That said i was once watching something about poverty in Jaywick.and remember shouting at a woman on the TV for feeding her animals with better food nutritionally for them.than she was giving to her 3 year old. (Noodles & hot dogs, washed down with full dugar coke). You just want to.shake some people and get them.told.

Darlo Debs 5:01 Tue Nov 10
Re: The children suffering
I think we see examples of that a lot in various parts of the media and its really piwerful.as that becomes our overriding image and symbolism.of poverty, yet i am pretty sure that is far ftom.the whole picture.

That said i was once watching something about poverty in Jaywick.and remember shouting at a woman on the TV for feeding her animals with better food nutritionally for them.than she was giving to her 3 year old. (Noodles & hot dogs, washed down with full dugar coke). You just want to.shake some people and get them.told.

Block 4:58 Tue Nov 10
Re: The children suffering
no one is ever the master of parenting

Side of Ham 4:57 Tue Nov 10
Re: The children suffering
Block's got this parenting lark down to a fine art already, so much so he's even swapping out the correct word for famous artists names.

Takashi Miike 4:57 Tue Nov 10
Re: The children suffering
if the monet is wasted, a constable should arrest the parents

Block 4:54 Tue Nov 10
Re: The children suffering

Moncurs Putting Iron 4:38 Tue Nov 10
Re: The children suffering

As I said, parents are at fault.

It's such a tricky situation with this kids eating for free situation, In my opinion instead of the parents getting benefits in the form of cash, they should be given vouchers which can only be spent on food for their children, so the monet cant be wasted.

Moncurs Putting Iron 4:53 Tue Nov 10
Re: The children suffering
Debs,

You have insufficient data to reach a percentage figure :-)

but, yes, I do have wrong uns in my family who could tell you the best place to buy a pouch of baccy and can quote the TV schedule verbatim but have no idea what their BMI is or how to cook a meal from scratch or what a balanced diet is let alone the benefit of it.

Darlo Debs 4:46 Tue Nov 10
Re: The children suffering
Are you suggesting half your family are wrong'uns Moncs? :-)

Moncurs Putting Iron 4:44 Tue Nov 10
Re: The children suffering
Debs,

You are not the examples we are quoting because on face value you care and don't want to be labelled.


I wouldn't care to put a figure on the ones that don't but they are hardly an endangered species I know of two in my family and In-laws straight of the bat.

Darlo Debs 4:40 Tue Nov 10
Re: The children suffering
Moncs i must be doing something very wrong then, i don't smoke or drink, yes i have a phone but to be honest i'd be stuck.without it as a back.up to my workphone, and tes we have broadband but i think it could be classed as a necessity to have some broadband access these days, but i am.currently sat here in a situation where i.am.without a car and to get one is going to cost me really high interest, yet without one i can't really do the hours needed to keep us goi g and pay for the car, as my daughter is suffering quite severe mental.health issues and can only work.eveninhgs and weekends when her dad can watch her.

I have no doubt there are some making poor or selfish choices, my point is simply there are probably many more that aren't and i just dont know how helpful it is to demonise.

I can't be the only one who struggled on for ages because i didn't want to be stigmatised as a *scrounger'.

Moncurs Putting Iron 4:38 Tue Nov 10
Re: The children suffering
Block,

It's not just teaching the mechanics, it's creating an environment that repeats the skill and puts it in a setting where its the norm.

Pizza and chips in front of the tv, eaten with the hands for 5 months, isn't that much of an outlandish scenario sadly.

Block 4:32 Tue Nov 10
Re: The children suffering

goose 4:03 Tue Nov 10

I wasn't referring to schooling, but teaching your children how to use a knife and fork is basic parenting, in my opinion.

penners28 4:28 Tue Nov 10
Re: The children suffering
Some of the income and expenditure forms I see on a daily basis are unreal. Claiming they have £40 a mth left to live on, but this is after £10 a day for fags, £100 for sky, numerous catalogue bills

THIS is the issue here. Let me tell you something for free, if you have sky, an iphone and smoke then you aint “poor”

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